Did anybody hear HAEMOTH first album " Satanik Terrorism"? Is it as good as some of their splits and demos ?

I just received the LP gatefold version released by Debemur Morti records and I must say i´m impressed.Really harsh Black Metal with some Gorgoroth influences,very good promising band from France.
Check their site for some samples at www.haemoth.fr.st

N.H.

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a killer act that deserves support
I really think that the full lenght is their best work so far, yet I am not too familiar with all their previous releases (only own the split cd & some "mp3")

Originally posted by Horrendus
I just received the LP gatefold version released by Debemur Morti records and I must say i´m impressed.Really harsh Black Metal with some Gorgoroth influences,very good promising band from France.
Check their site for some samples at www.haemoth.fr.st

N.H.

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Do you know what distros carry this?

fekisrat : I have some copies of the gatefold LP,just check www.nightmareproductions.kom.pt or drop a mail to nightmareprod@hotmail.com

N.H.

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Just heard the title track some days ago and ordered my gatefold copy at no colors (along with Ad Hominem's new effort) . If the rest of that album is as brutal as this track, then it'll be one of the best releases I've heard for a while.

Seems that the french BM-Scene is gaining big momentum...some years ago, there wasn't much of a thing you could call french BM-Scene (except Mutiiliation, but I never took them serious).

Originally posted by PanzerSchreck
(except Mutiiliation, but I never took them serious).

What does it mean ? Explanation please....

My first encounter with them was an Interview (don't remember where, maybe an old issue of Ablaze or Legacy) and I found that he was talking utter bs, and I never could get along with Mutiilation's music. And there was btw. that "grim" photo where he sat in a wheelchair and tried to look as evil as one can do in such a vehicle...it fitted the content of that interview quite well...

Maybe my attitude towards that band could with one of their most recent releases (if they're still around)...but who needs them anyway if such great stuff as Haemoth comes from france...

Originally posted by PanzerSchreck
(if they're still around)..

no more to add... you have proved how great your knowledge/culture of BM is...

and how the hell can you compare Haemoth with Mutiilation ?

P.

What's up with you? Until recently I just didn't care for the french BM-Scene and even less for Mutiilation...is that a crime or what?
And btw. I didn't compare Mutiilation with Haemoth, I just wanted to say that Haemoth do appeal to me much more than Mutiilation ever did.

Judging from your comment, not knowing about the french-BM scene means not knowing about BM in general, but I don't think that this is the case.

Come on !
We're not talking about french, chinese or costa rican Black Metal here...

There are bands which can not be ignored, and Mutiilation is obviously one of them, be them french or be them E.T's.

Everybody who is a minimum involved in the BM scene knows the actuality of this band...

P.

I bet I'm not the only one that's into BM and that doesn't know about the activities Mutiilation, and I don't think that it's a crime. So no need to be that harsh...if you like Mutiilation, great, I don't, so I don't care for them. And if I don't care for a band I don't give a f. about what that band is doing.

Originally posted by Perversifier
Come on !
We're not talking about french, chinese or costa rican Black Metal here...

There are bands which can not be ignored, and Mutiilation is obviously one of them, be them french or be them E.T's.

Everybody who is a minimum involved in the BM scene knows the actuality of this band...

P.

I think Perversifier is very correct on this matter..

i think he's very wrong in this matter !
unless he assumes that everyone has internet.

since theres not alot og zine interviews/reviews with them.
the only mail order list i have ever seen mutiilation on (speaking non internet here)
was in 1999 on the NC mailing list, where they had the satanist styrken demo tape on.

so how should anyone know about mutiilation if theres no interviews/reviews or albums on mailing lists and no internet ?

i know people that have been involved longer time than alot if not most of the posters here, that ask's me about who they are, and what they are like. Not everybody discovered BM through the internet.

iits not like its a big band selling 1000's of records each release ,besides on the internet.
So i really can't see why it should be obvious to know about mutiilation. Also since theres like 50 better bands out there, that are fare more interesting than them.


thumps up for panzerschreck for not being infected by the masses.

Well,one may know of the bands but doesn´t mean one needs to be updated.Theres many bands and it´s kinda impossible to keep up with everything,be it Mütiilation or whatever.
Besides,Haemoth can´t be compared to Mütiilation in any way,only maybe the fact it´s from the same country,that´s it.
I won´t judge some one just cos he prefers one band to another,just cos he won´t follow the standard pattern that this or that band is cult and has to be listened to and the other not cos it´s unknown etc etc,all a bunch of crap.

N.H.

Originally posted by Horrendus
Well,one may know of the bands but doesn´t mean one needs to be updated.Theres many bands and it´s kinda impossible to keep up with everything,be it Mütiilation or whatever.
Besides,Haemoth can´t be compared to Mütiilation in any way,only maybe the fact it´s from the same country,that´s it.
I won´t judge some one just cos he prefers one band to another,just cos he won´t follow the standard pattern that this or that band is cult and has to be listened to and the other not cos it´s unknown etc etc,all a bunch of crap.

N.H.

who here, excepted you, used the word "cult" ?
that's not what I meant... of course there are tons of bands around and we can't know all the discographies of all the bands, but you can't deny that you can have a quite precise idea about someone in asking which bands the person listen to...

"tell me what you listen, I'll tell you who you are..."

To my opinion, Mutiilation is a band that EVERYBODY seriously into BM for what it really is should like or at least apprehend...
This guy obviously doesn't grasp the essence of the band... (according to his remarks with the wheelchair etc...). So no wonder why he doesn't know much about it.

It should be a part of anyone's culture... people who are into the same kind of music/ideology usually have the same background/culture, don't you think ?

One can think that if a person has never heard Mutiilation for example, he must be in the scene for not very long... At least that's what I think.

About Haemoth, I never said it was not a worthy band... I do like it a lot myself.

P.

One can think that if a person has never heard Mutiilation for example, he must be in the scene for not very long... At least that's what I think.

one can think that if a person hasen't started listening to black metal on the internet, or simply never have had the opportunity to gain acces, he might never have been able to hear them, since they almost only exist on the internet ( meaning you wont find any mutiilation in 99% of the mail order catalouges.
and why should EVERYBODY have heard about mutiilation ?
its not like their groundbreaking or very original.
if they where, i would be abit suprised to hear about somone who hasen't heard of them, but thats not the case here.

So i fail to see why its obvious to know them , in the stream of 500 + black metal bands out there (like N.H pointed out in the post below)

most people are different individuals, who goes in different directions within the boundries of metal music, so don't assume anything based on the fact that they never heard about a underground band with limited released albums, thats just plain childish.

Thx for backup starkness and Horrendus. I think it's kind of pointless to continue this neverending discussion...I know about Mutiilation and I even listened to one of teir albums some years ago. And in my opinion I just don't like them...if everyone would like the same stuff, then life would be pretty boring, or wouldn't it mr.perversifier?

So if you think being BM means to know about every fucking BM band around, even if it doesn't appeal you, then great : Just don't call me BM...I can live without it...

btw. : I'm pretty sure that I know bands better than Muttiilation you never heard of, but I don't feel the urgent need to bash people for not knowing. I think that should be far below the level of someone calling himself true...

Originally posted by starknezz
the only mail order list i have ever seen mutiilation on (speaking non internet here)
was in 1999 on the NC mailing list, where they had the satanist styrken demo tape on

You must be kidding ? since then, lots of labels carry their new stuffs, like End All life, Ordealis, etc...

I don't say that everybody must LIKE it, I say it's STRANGE that people are not even aware that the band is still VERY ACTIVE. That means that those people don't read the catalogs, don't read fanzines (because there ARE reviews of it), don't talk with people, etc... don't you think ?

We can't like any band and buy any record, but at least we can keep ourselves updated/informed about what is released or not... How can you choose what to buy if you don't even know what is released ?

About the Internet, you must be kidding also... Internet was not such a big plague when Drakkar released Vampires of Black Imperial Blood first...
And there were not TONS of releases at those times... The scene was not saturated like nowadays... It was easy to be aware of what was released.

jesus fucking christ!
fetch me a cardboard and i'll carve it out for you.
You must be kidding ? since then, lots of labels carry their new stuffs, like End All life, Ordealis, etc...

show me a mail order catalouge from both of those labels !
you can't ? thats because you didn't read what i wrote, NON internet mail order catalouge ! paper ? like getting it by snail mail ?


I don't say that everybody must LIKE it, I say it's STRANGE that people are not even aware that the band is still VERY ACTIVE. That means that those people don't read the catalogs, don't read fanzines (because there ARE reviews of it), don't talk with people, etc... don't you think ?

as stated previously. i know MANY who dosent know mutiilation besides reading about them on the net that has been listening to bm since 95 and forward.

you are assuming that everybody who listens to bm has internet.

and you are assuming that everybody knows what goes on in the french "scene"

like i can find 5 danish band that would suprise me that you haven't heard off.

Ofcourse you know more about the scene in the country you lives in, thats logic, so stop assuming that every foreigner does the same. the french scene hasen't ever been anything special or big in most foreigners eyes, untill mutiilation and the rest of the "LLN" got some attention.


We can't like any band and buy any record, but at least we can keep ourselves updated/informed about what is released or not... How can you choose what to buy if you don't even know what is released ?

easy!
people stick to what they already knows something about, and slowly learns about more and more bands through them.

Again how should any non internet metal head know anything about a band thats in like 5 deeply underground zines, and is on 2-3 MAX mailorder catalouges (again paper catalouges) and why should anybody pick out that excat band from a unknown list of perhaps 100 bands ? sheer "luck"


About the Internet, you must be kidding also... Internet was not such a big plague when Drakkar released Vampires of Black Imperial Blood first...

no, and perhaps thats why it took so long to sell out untill the internet got bigger ?



end result : you can't understand how somebody dosen't know about a band from your country.

and i could add that i dont understands why you dont know some bands from example my country that i find 100 % more interesting than mutiilation.

but who cares ? i got profs that says that i know alot of people into bm longer than you and me ,who dosent know much about mutiilation besides the name nor cares.

i bet fenriz dosen't knows shit about mutiilation, but still he's been around since the dawn of time, so your assumptions and more true than thou statement is way off.

but i'll stop posting crap in this thread as i can't imagine its interesting to the others.

pm me if you have something to add directed to me.

cheers.

To mention Fenriz and Mutiilation in the same phrase at this days is like comparing shit to caviar

Haemoth's satanik terrorism is amazing, heinous, brutal, dark and powerfull in total agreement with their philosophy
A new album would be available in february.

haemoth's drumer sent me the demo of a haemoth's other side-projects called Demonium, the demo tape will be available very soon and a mcd in february i'll have more infos soon (if you like haemoth you will like it to i think).

i've just listen a track from an other haemoth's other side-projects called Spektr (downloaded from Haemoth's official website)
for those who like indus/chaotic atmospheres it's realy great !
it's sound like a horror movie's soundtrack
the album 'd come on february to

Anybody know if the cd version (lim.500) of Haemoth "Satanik terrorism" would be available from some salelist.

Hellz all !

Void from Debemur Morti Prods here.
The LP version is still available from us. We should also get some copies of the CD version for our mail order very soon.

Dark regards,
Void
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:D Haemoth have on their full-length a track called "Agios o Baphomet". In greek there's a phrase "agios o theos" meaning something close to "blessed be god". Thus "agios o baphomet" = "blessed be baphomet". The thing is that the phrase isn't used anymore to praise god, but to signify that things are good in general. So, the changed phrase sound funny, at least in greek.

Maybe one of Haemoth's members is greek. Not that it matters, but still, I found the whole thing funny.

this album is really surprising!! didn't expect to be so good......a promising french band for sure!!