can someone give me informations about de black metal band Isvind ??? i only know that they have a great album the debut "dark waters stir" ..then.. nothing more ? they have fininish or what !? hail to them .

I know one of their few demos and one EP,"Nivelheimen" and "Isvind" both of 1994...i never heared that full lenght (blame on me) :o

See more info about the band:

http://www.isvind.com/

they will have a new EP out on Hearse Records (Italy) soon

I have some demo stuffs that are not mentionned on the site.
But I don't exactly know the discography :confused: as even on the site it doesn't seems to be complete !!!

This is a great band I think , the "Dark waters stir" is their best work anyway I think.

:sick:

http://krieg.free.fr/vrac/isvind_2.jpg

http://krieg.free.fr/vrac/isvind_5.jpg

I've their first demo, quite good stuff if I remember well but nothing incredible.

Hey they are ISVIND members on these pictures with their punk face?

Originally posted by BorsaNera
Hey they are ISVIND members on these pictures with their punk face?

Taken from their website : www.isvind.com

the best photosession had to be on this norsk zine (done by gru husmo, cannot recall the name clearly)
with cellphone & corpse paint

some people in there would have really "laughed out loud" & do some "blink blink" & "xptdr" while watching those

Originally posted by Mkm
some people in there would have really "laughed out loud" & do some "blink blink" & "xptdr" while watching those

Hahahah !!! This sentence killed me !

god lord !!!! :eek: I ´m glad that they play much better..that they look!! Fuck . Ehehe .. thanks for the informations .

"Dark Waters Stir" was (and still is) for me one of the best Black metal albums Hailing from Norway but damn,this fucking "cool off" attitude that most bands have adopted over the years made this so special and different scene into something vulgar and totally out of proportion,what happened to the magic of all that was what made us all (I hope) follow this blood red Path ? .....some will probably say "we grew up";"we are no more followers of an illusion,we are our own Light"....what can I say : "Fuck you morons!" Black Metal is and forever will be part of what lies untouched and blackened deep inside "our" hearts...at least for those who were and still are dedicated to the cause,cause that is now more fulcral than ever,wanna know why ? question yourselves

Avé Black Metal! Avé Satanás!

I preferred not to have seen that photos... Nor to know any Isvind news... And for me Muspellz Sónir is one of the classics hailing from Norway.

Isvind is great!!! I beleive one of the most emotional and best black metal I ever heard ...well about their photos and atittude..that's another story.... :-\

Originally posted by Krieg
:sick:

I've their first demo, quite good stuff if I remember well but nothing incredible.

Yes nothing incredible but not bad I agree
About the pictures, they are funny :D

.... and I think one more time some will fall in this endless discussion about the way Black metallers should be wear and paint to really look evil and true to the old spirit of BM :evil:

Originally posted by Noth Enam
Yes nothing incredible but not bad I agree
About the pictures, they are funny :D

.... and I think one more time some will fall in this endless discussion about the way Black metallers should be wear and paint to really look evil and true to the old spirit of BM :evil:

& what about death metal being about bunnies & clouds
all being dressed with the latest "hip hop" fashionnable items

there is a difference in between having an "image" that doesn't fit you, but that you achieve for the sake of "belonging" & an image that would really represent the whole.

same discussion could be applied to :
why wouldn't we all share mp3 & stop payin attention to vinyl : it is so outdated anyway & it is not "as cool" to play on the computer while leaving insults on some email account

Originally posted by Mkm
[B]& what about death metal being about bunnies & clouds
all being dressed with the latest "hip hop" fashionnable items
]

I personnaly don't care about how people are dressed if what they are doing appeals to me !!!

Originally posted by Mkm
there is a difference in between having an "image" that doesn't fit you, but that you achieve for the sake of "belonging" & an image that would really represent the whole.

The image someone is giving to the others doesn't necessary represent what this person really is !!!!
I don't really understand what you mean !!!

I do care myself for the image fitting the whole
ideology first, then music, then image
if one is "missing", I would not care (black metal related in here of course, for other genre I would be more open minded)

I would not be "interested" in bands like Horde for instance or any "joke band" around

Bathory is somehow a "joke" band, yet the first three albums are amazing music wise

You might have some bands having amazing artwork, in depths lyrics & yet music wise : nothing

I do seek a "whole"

in the end, I might only give attention to 10 bands at the most, but I would rather support those 10 than loose time & energy with hundreds.

to each its own opinion of course.

Originally posted by Noth Enam
The image someone is giving to the others doesn't necessary represent what this person really is !!!!
I don't really understand what you mean !!!

for the first line, I did not refer to the "clothes" but the image in general. it could be "all black" with no pictures, it still fits the "imagery" of the band.

& about people "having fake images", after a while you always end up discovering who is who anyway.

I used to support bands with SPK or with ANTAEUS that turned out to be backstabbers in the end.
We all do mistakes, but we also learn from this...

Originally posted by Mkm
I do care myself for the image fitting the whole
ideology first, then music, then image
if one is "missing", I would not care (black metal related in here of course, for other genre I would be more open minded)

[...]

to each its own opinion of course.

This is EXACTLY what I wrote here and there, nothing to add.

You get the point Mr MKM . i agree totaly with you.. afterall we all care.. But every one have his/her opinion about something..and like or not..It seems that some opinions,sometimes have a wrong interpretation..we can see it as wel around here.. Isvind meanwhile still be a good band ! Bem dito Horrendus .

yes that's a shame that the actual only good remnants from norway (music wise) are actually adopt so cheap an image.That's true not only for Isvind but also for Urgehal and Tsjuder...So which band from Norway remain crude both musically and conceptually..? please avoid to mention the big bands on avant-garde & sea...

That pictures really frightened me!!! They are nothing compared to the ones at the top right corner of their site... let's hope that the sound don't change...
I think that when we speak about True Black Metal it refers to a specific kind of ideology, image and attitude... a band playing Black Metal with a punk/hardcore image doesn't fit the concept at all...
I guess this is going to be another band that will desilude me... if they will, i rather prefer them dead*.



* put an end to the band's existence.

Originally posted by Torment
yes that's a shame that the actual only good remnants from norway (music wise) are actually adopt so cheap an image.That's true not only for Isvind but also for Urgehal and Tsjuder...So which band from Norway remain crude both musically and conceptually..? please avoid to mention the big bands on avant-garde & sea...

KOLDBRANN !!!!! check them out..it's a must....
http://www.koldbrann.cjb.net <- I think...

I think it has become easy to see who is who in BM today. Easy to the point that sometimes even before one listens to the music one already knows what to expect. Why? Well, this has everything to do with the “whole� question already mentioned by Mr. Mkm. The “whole� is truly important as it works not only in BM but also in every musical style. It is not a question of being narrow minded or ultra conservator but (as I think we all agree) there are certain standards that have been adopted in every musical style and those should be respected. Even though, from time to time, we may witness that certain BM bands break the limits. In this case, either they start something different but keep that feeling that is peculiar to BM although working with a different perspective or, on the other way around, they just become a laughing matter. If you are a conscientious observer you will immediately notice what a band is all about: just music without any concept/ideology, just good lyrics without any musical ability or just some dumb assholes posing with makeup. The truth is that everything tends to evolve, BM also. But there is something called “equilibrium in the musical genre� and some individuals just don’t seem to be aware of this. Regarding Isvind, well… “Dark Waters Stir� is definitely above average… The “new thing�… I will let it pass in silence…

Originally posted by Nazgul
I think it has become easy to see who is who in BM today. ... Regarding Isvind, well… “Dark Waters Stir� is definitely above average… The “new thing�… I will let it pass in silence…




there's some truth in what u've said about the continuum in a "concept". The point with Isvind is that they've created an absolute standard (at least in my ears & soul) of crudity with intelligence towards this continuum. And one cannot say that they have been (as so many other impieties) already properlt recognised for this ancient genius...But it seems this problem is over them now...kind of an abandon from them...

http://www.isvind.com/bits/media/pics/Isvind03.jpg


Personally i can not care less about how a band or a individual look. And I dont even think that the pictures posted here are that offensive to the Black Metal “fans�at all. It even comes to my mind, celestia who so many pvre and trve guys despise due to their looks. Well, I cant say that the way they look its of my taste but fortunately that didnt let their works “pass silent� to me. Back to Isvind, I will wait to the release , then I´ll judge them. If its in the vein of “dark waters stir� or their 7� that will NOT pass silent, if not... well fuck them. There are plenty of great bands left in the world.

Damn, those pix... urk...

Yet Dark Waters Stir was really a KILLER album. Will stay as some kind of "UG classic" to me.

Well, I heard a sample of their latest work in their site (although it wasn't with real drums) and it cannot be compared to "Dark Waters Stir"... It is far worse, if you ask me and so I don't think it is necessary to hear the entire album. I can be wrong, though... But honestly I don't give them much credit anymore.

All we can do is scare posers by torturing serveral of them. And wait and hope that the current 'trend' bm will soon end up as all trends. Finnally the trend will go to another musical style, and bm will again be small, rotten and forgotten, as it should be.

Originally posted by Gvest666
http://www.isvind.com/bits/media/pics/Isvind03.jpg


Personally i can not care less about how a band or a individual look. And I dont even think that the pictures posted here are that offensive to the Black Metal “fans�at all.

i'm agree . Even if i far prefer " black metal style & attitude " if i can say ... i think the most important is to be honest with oneself...
since when we must follow a trend ? we don't play & listen to black metal for someone but for ourselves . FIRST is a personal pleasure / suffering , after if we could find again ourselves in a certain "attitude " that's great but basically we ( well , i ) don't give a fuck about the clothes and look . About the whole is it true that for making a band more excellent the image must be suitable to the ideologies & music . The whole is important and without this concept , bands like Watain wouldn't be so impressive .

in these days many bands just think that their image in those days its just a.. how should i say.. its bullshits..pherhaps it doesnt matter !! ( hum ! i dont think so ) but like said Torment (urgehal ).. and much more Gvest666 (for Celestia) Yep its true..maybe good music ,i like Urgehal .. but their presence in stage !! i saw Celestia and damn ... but.. probably its like i said.. they just fuck to want we think..i supose they like it! So... let them play as they want...

I do not agree,there should be a Black Metal Inquisition,only let continue the worthy bands,hard task,but would be interesting and for sure needed

Originally posted by Pazuzu
in these days many bands just think that their image in those days its just a.. how should i say.. its bullshits..pherhaps it doesnt matter !! ( hum ! i dont think so ) but like said Torment (urgehal ).. and much more Gvest666 (for Celestia) Yep its true..maybe good music ,i like Urgehal .. but their presence in stage !! i saw Celestia and damn ... but.. probably its like i said.. they just fuck to want we think..i supose they like it! So... let them play as they want...

Excuse me (or not) but your english is more than 'special'. I can't really understand the deep meaning of your comment.

hum..maybe Horrendus..some kind of erase. Not a bad ideia,until a few years ago..only ppl with the "feeling" listening this kind of music..and even without the things that we have today..internet and kind of stuffs..we looking for it ..now its more have a bad atitude..and its on fashion ..how great..to many now ! ok... but the spirit !! its vanish.. Some comercial "black"bands..bring lots of freaks in to the scene..others bands..sincerly makes me sick .

i know Krieg :( ..isnt very well ..because of that some coments been a bad interpretation.. i try it ! i talk..but the write.. Blarghh .

oohh boy

Oh shit ahah!

Well call me whatever you want...but I´ll always believe in the SPIKES AND LEATHER thing...fuck gay imagery!

Originally posted by Horrendus
I do not agree,there should be a Black Metal Inquisition,only let continue the worthy bands,hard task,but would be interesting and for sure needed

A Black Metal inquisition !!!!! :rolleyes:
Don't you think there is something more interesting to do ???
I personally don't want to loose my time at that !!

And anyway what would you do ???? Become a serial killer and kill every people listening to Black Metal without understanding the "meaning" !!!!!!
Yes hard task for sure !!! Write to Grishnack in jail and ask him how to do he could maybe help you :)

A Black Metal inquisition is maybe a bit cliché but I can understand the concept beneath.

I mean, we are not here for fun, we are not playing BM to kill time or please someone.

When I see pictures of corpsepainted guys washing their teeth, laughing kids pretending to play Black Metal the funny way, It drives me mad.
"we don't masturbate our brain with useless concepts, that's just music..." they say... But wrong : it is serious.

After that, normal people thinks Black Metal is so fun, they believe we are some kind of role playing teenagers with false axes running in the woods after nightfall...

The image is the reflect of the dedication of the band.

I have nothing to add,theres some people that just don´t deserve my consideration,I know theres people who understood my words and it is to them that I Hail

Avé Satanás!

Originally posted by Arkdaemon

I mean, we are not here for fun, we are not playing BM to kill time or please someone.

When I see pictures of corpsepainted guys washing their teeth, laughing kids pretending to play Black Metal the funny way, It drives me mad.
"we don't masturbate our brain with useless concepts, that's just music..." they say... But wrong : it is serious.



Yeah , totally right . We are not here for fun.

I totally agree with that "Black Metal Inquisition" concept but I realize that ACTUALLY and in THIS world that's completely impossible! We're the minority wherever we want it or not! But I guess that our true strength and will lies in that supposed minority and I sure want to keep that minority. Black Metal isn't for the masses and the "BM Inquisition" could only be possible with with a great amount of people supporting it.
Well this is actually looking like a fiction film in my mind...

Mr.Devasth,actually I meant an "inquisition" within the "scene",to kick out all fags and trendies that are polluting what is(or should be) precious to us

No matter what it will be the black metal scene..there´s always some fags around disguise.. by the way..i supose black isnt what it was been.. change !!??.. for hurst ... for beeter..its up to you.. But its good to know that some bands keeping alive . Hail.

Mr. Pazuzu, your posts by it self are a reason to come to this forum. No hard feelings but is just too damn fun. Whats (..), is it less powerful then (...)?

About the inquisition, I dont think thats necessary. Natural selection just does the trick. And I think that all of us, when looking back can comprehend this. Yet, if theres blood involved I´m on it.

Originally posted by Horrendus
Mr.Devasth,actually I meant an "inquisition" within the "scene",to kick out all fags and trendies that are polluting what is(or should be) precious to us
I guess that already happens. The inquisition already exists.
It only doesn't use medieval methods.
We already ignore the fakes. This is our method. Ignoring is actually the best weapon against them. At least that's the weapon I've used all my life and still use.
Isvind are probably going to be victims of that weapon. Let's just wait...

Originally posted by Gvest666
Mr. Pazuzu, your posts by it self are a reason to come to this forum. No hard feelings but is just too damn fun. Whats (..), is it less powerful then (...)

Yeah i supose so. I´m glad that some ppl come here just for me..i´m here not to say beauty things or only things that some ppl wanna hear it. Probably / unfortunable my english isnt very well,,and i have some dificulties to let pass..what i wanna say..but Np . People brains are less powerfull..some..of course..there´s no spirit..only $$$ ..

Edited by mod for visibility....

Originally posted by Devasth
I totally agree with that "Black Metal Inquisition" concept but I realize that ACTUALLY and in THIS world that's completely impossible! We're the minority wherever we want it or not! But I guess that our true strength and will lies in that supposed minority and I sure want to keep that minority. Black Metal isn't for the masses and the "BM Inquisition" could only be possible with with a great amount of people supporting it.
Well this is actually looking like a fiction film in my mind...

Ah there is people that understand that this BM Inquisition is utopic !!!! Great to know I'm not the only one to be a little realist. :cool:

Well..if we had such a thing as a "BM Inquisition" here in Portugal, he would have many victims to torture, eheh...

Originally posted by Alastor R.
Well..if we had such a thing as a "BM Inquisition" here in Portugal, he would have many victims to torture, eheh...
HAHAH!
For sure! Traitors and backstabbers are everywere in our scene... I remember not too long ago, me and Mr. Horrendus mentioned a couple...
But as I already I've said/written, there is ACTUALLY a BM Inquisition... but our methods aren't medieval. :iark:

a Black Metal inquisition !! Never will be the solution.. just let them.. live and let die

Originally posted by Funeral Wind
a Black Metal inquisition !! Never will be the solution.. just let them.. live and let die
Well but if they are becoming to annoy you must take an action!!

...hmmm this thread is completely running out of the main topic... maybe not...

Well..i dont give a shit for all fags or asholes wandering in the scene...They dont bored me ! and its all ok ..Just dont give any credits to them.. Do you???!

I have this stuff about Icewind/Isvind:

ICEWIND(Pre-Isvind) "The Call Of The Ice Wind" Original Demo sent to me by Arak

ISVIND "Nivelheimen" Original Demo Tape with first and original cover - sent to me Arak

ISVIND "Nivelheimen" Original Demo Tape with different artwork, limited and handnumbered 13

ISVIND "Nivelheimen" Original Demo Tape with old Isvind logo and original letter do by Goblin - Yggdrasil Prod. - handnumbered 21

ISVIND "Nivelheimen" Original Demo Tape - Yggdrasil Productions - handnumbered 298

ISVIND "S/T" Original Promo CDR 2004 sent to me by Goblin

ISVIND "?" CDR Reh. 96 send to me from Arak

ISVIND "?" CDR MASTER with demo songs for Millenium Music send to me by Arak

ISVIND "Muspellz Sònir" - Solistitium Records - 7" 1994 first press with lyric insert - handnumbered 266/1000

ISVIND - Entropi - ? - MASTER CD 2003 for split 7" with my band Orcrist, sent to me by Arak

ISVIND/ORCRIST "Entropi/Det Hedenske" - Hearse Records - SPLIT 7" 2004 first press with inlay handnumbered 02/300

ISVIND/ORCRIST "Entropi/Det Hedenske" - Hearse Records - SPLIT 7" 2004 first press with inlay handnumbered 74/300

ISVIND "Dark Waters Stir" - Solistitiumum Records - BLACK LP TEST PRESSING 1996 limited to 10/15 copies

ISVIND "Dark Waters Stir" - Solistitiumum Records - RED LP 1996 first press limited to 500 copies

ISVIND "Dark Water Stir" - Solistium Records - DIGIPACK CD 1996 first press limited to 2500 copies

ISVIND "Dark Water Stir" - Solistium Records - CD 1996 re-issue 2003

ISVIND "Dark Water Stir" - Solistium Records - PROMOTIONAL CD 1996 limited to 200 copies

Thanks for bumping a 2.5 years old thread to share this information with us.. :')

after reading this topic .....thanks god i wasn't here 3 years ago....

Originally posted by Alastor R.
Well call me whatever you want...but I´ll always believe in the SPIKES AND LEATHER thing...fuck gay imagery!

And is there anything that says anti-gay more clear its Leather cloathing.



Back to the the topic i remember that the old bass player of Isvind was a dwarf or at least hobbit size...

how old is this thread now?

Originally posted by Sasrof
And is there anything that says anti-gay more clear its Leather cloathing.



Back to the the topic i remember that the old bass player of Isvind was a dwarf or at least hobbit size...

And he hasn't grown yet :D

Well, on the Under The Black Sun-festivals two or three years ago where Isvind played, he played the drums, on the tour with Secrets Of The Moon the same year he either played bass or guitars, can't remember really, but since Isvind basically is and was Arak Draconiiz and Goblin - the latter one is the petit guy - they just switch with what session musician they get to be able to perform live.

"The image is the reflect of the dedication of the band."

Thanks for a good laugh.


Do you all so called cool dressed people belive that every serial killer for example must have the same true image to really be dedicated to THEIR cause?

Come on... Hah.

serial killers dont play live shows and take promo photos of themselves.

Image means alot when your band leaves the bedroom.

Too many bands here - you see them live and they are shitty short haired hobby metal losers playing what they call "black metal".

Of course, I liked "Dark Waters Stir" long before I saw these pictures.

So what does the length of your hair say about the seriousness of you being or not being Black Metal? I appreciate it as well when bands have long hair and their appearance does fit, but at the end of the day, the length of of you hair does tell shit, even though some German bands claimed differently.

And regarding Isvind - back in the days, e.g. the time when they released D.W.S. they all had long hair, spikes, corpsepaint etc. There still were no pictures - at least not in my digipack, I don't know for the LP-version though - and there wouldn't have been many most likely if they hadn't toured.

Originally posted by baal faustus
serial killers dont play live shows and take promo photos of themselves.

Image means alot when your band leaves the bedroom.

Too many bands here - you see them live and they are shitty short haired hobby metal losers playing what they call "black metal".

Of course, I liked "Dark Waters Stir" long before I saw these pictures.

Haha. That was probably the most pathetic shit I ever read on this message board.

One word, SUPERFICIAL. Is this the highest level of spirituality you can reach?

Or maybe should not even comment this because I dont have "black-long-true-black-metal" hair? What a good laugh. Thanks.