WWW.TEMPLEOFWATAIN.COM just updated.

*"Rabid Death's Curse" reissued on CD, now available from Watain directly, along with the "Casus Luciferi" CD.
*New gigs confirmed.
*Reviews et cetera added.

CUM SALUS SATANI A VULNUS MUNDI.

For those of you who might have not seen it:

After years of hard work and bestial summonings, it can be made official that Necromorbus
studio has finally been booked in June for the recording of the second Watain album. No further
info on this monumental masterpiece is to be given until the time is right. Yet indeed much is there to say...

A trinity of liverituals arranged by Satans Millenium Records (Holland) will be performed in May/June, the dates are as follows;

Fri, May 30: Germany, Berlin, Knaack Club
Sat, May 31: Germany, Elterlein, Hagalaz Club
Sun, June 01: Holland, Rotterdam, De Baroeg

Support acts: Salacious Gods and Trimonium.
These will be special gigs, you who are hungry for true black fanaticism be sure to attend.
For further info contact Satans millenium at scourginghermit@hotmail.com


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I might try to go to do the Germany date if I'm indeed in that part of the globe still

which dod heims gard song does watain cover?

Hope the new tracks will be in the vein of "my fist are him". Do they still have the same drummer or maybe Necromorbus will do the job for the recording ?!

Originally posted by TheAngelButcher
which dod heims gard song does watain cover?

If I'm not mistaken(??) it's Angel death as I've read it.

Originally posted by Krieg
Hope the new tracks will be in the vein of "my fist are him". Do they still have the same drummer or maybe Necromorbus will do the job for the recording ?!



If I'm not mistaken(??) it's Angel death as I've read it.

If they're gonna do "Angel death" it is simply going to be fucking killer... that's the only song I'm not sure they could outdo but who knows !

I think it's "when heaven end".

I think so...

Originally posted by Necrosoldier
I think it's "when heaven end".

Ho really ...... hmmmm Angel death would have been a better choice but I also like "kronet til konge" very much but hehehe "when heavens end" is an outro ! .

killer newz....

no doubt that this will be Xcellent black filth

Originally posted by grimlord
killer newz....

no doubt that this will be Xcellent black filth

That's what we all hope.

check the Necromorbus website. There's a sample of this dodheimsgard cover.
There should be no doubt that the new Watain will be a monument.

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I´m just curious to ear Mr. HystErik´s opinion about those Dissection comparitions of late...
I´m my opinion Watain are a much much blacker institution that Dissection. (and I hope they don´t end in Nuclear Bash too, ehe)

For me, there's also a strong MAYHEM feeling in the "Casus Luciferi" album... Don't you think ?

Originally posted by Propaganda
For me, there's also a strong MAYHEM feeling in the "Casus Luciferi" album... Don't you think ?

Exactly!
Keep of Kalessin's "Through times of war" also had that same Mayhem/Dissection thing...

N

And where comes that feeling from? The old Thorns tapes my friends...

Cant say that i hear much Aerie descent nor Funeral marches from the grave in Watain's music.

I reckon "Casus..." is the logicial continuation of what Mayhem started with "De Mysteriis..."

I hear WATAIN in Casus..., not Dissection nor Mayhem.

I hear WATAIN in Casus..., not Dissection nor Mayhem.

Exactly. You read my thoughts.

I think the album contains the same feeling as the Warrant album Cherry Pie, Also some obivous Nirvana riffing can be heard. Not to mention the fact that the lyrics are ripped straight from the early Mötley Crue albums...

Originally posted by Sasrof
I think the album contains the same feeling as the Warrant album Cherry Pie, Also some obivous Nirvana riffing can be heard. Not to mention the fact that the lyrics are ripped straight from the early Mötley Crue albums...


Exactly. You read my thoughts.

Exactly. You read my thoughts.

Exactly.

Yes! Devils Blood and Shout At The Devil, such similarites that it's mindbogling!

:D

I've never understood the sense of debates concerning "influences". I see it's obvious that any band is influenced/inspired at least by the "originators of the genre". Personally I can relate someones music to 2 main categories, which are "Art" and "not Art".
WATAIN performs Art and all the other definitions / comparisons are useless.

Originally posted by GreG
I've never understood the sense of debates concerning "influences". How about when you're discovering a band and you read that some the influences are bands you appreciate and thus you wish to spend your hard earned dollars on this band you're discovering? Makes sense to me.

Also, I fail to see how anyone could not notice the "De Mysteriis..." influence on "Casus Luciferi".

Originally posted by Invictus War
How about when you're discovering a band and you read that some the influences are bands you appreciate and thus you wish to spend your hard earned dollars on this band you're discovering? Makes sense to me.
If I have any doubts in some band, I'm trying to get their stuff through tape trading, for example. Then if I like it, I spend "hardly earned dollars" for the original release. That's much better than listening to the "public opinion", imo.

P.S. You've got know about WATAIN new album from some 'zine review? My congratulations!

Originally posted by GreG
P.S. You've got know about WATAIN new album from some 'zine review? My congratulations!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

Originally posted by Sasrof
I think the album contains the same feeling as the Warrant album Cherry Pie, Also some obivous Nirvana riffing can be heard. Not to mention the fact that the lyrics are ripped straight from the early Mötley Crue albums...

Dude, you totally overlooked the obvious Trixster and Mr. Big riffs they directly lifted!! :D

I´m my opinion Watain are a much much blacker institution that Dissection.

Oh dear. That is an extremly bold statement!!! Of course not!
How can you compare Watain in the first place to Dissection, The first band derives alot of influences from the second and of course Dissection is considered to be a legend which is still not the case and will never be for Watain.


Concerning Casus... The influence of De Mysteriis is obvious.
And no, I don't hear WATAIN's own form of music and I doubt if it will happen.

In the end, this whole orthodox BM is doomed to end sooner or later.

Note: Followers of such a trend don't bark.

:-\


hm..I beleive you're kinda....wrong.

Originally posted by Hierosis
Dude, you totally overlooked the obvious Trixster and Mr. Big riffs they directly lifted!! :D

Ironic that we spent the SDI tour taking turns reading the Motley Crue autobiography and listening to "Appetite for Destruction" :iark:

Originally posted by Demise
In the end, this whole orthodox BM is doomed to end sooner or later.

I'm unclear on what you mean by that. Are you predicting an unprecedented shift in underground aesthetics, or simply an increase in popularity and acceptance of more "modern" Black Metal like Aborym?

He just don't know what the hell he's talking about... simple as that.

This is gone out of hand as usual...
I only wanted to hear Mr. Erik´s opinion about those comparitions...

How can you compare Watain in the first place to Dissection, The first band derives alot of influences from the second and of course Dissection is considered to be a legend which is still not the case and will never be for Watain.

Well...just wait some more years. Probably if someone in the band murders you, they will.

And onstage they have 100 times more charisma than D.
Hail Erik for looking like a corpse, eheh

In my opinion Watain feels like a far more "complete" installation than Dissection... And if I am to make any comparisons between "Rabid's Death Curse" and "The Somberlain", I must say that I find Dissection's lyrics quite silly compared to Watain's on the debut album.

Btw, who cares if Dissection are seen as "legendary"?
Most of the fuzz comes probably from the deeds of Mr.Nödveidt anyway.

Originally posted by Morbid
In my opinion Watain feels like a far more "complete" installation than Dissection... And if I am to make any comparisons between "Rabid's Death Curse" and "The Somberlain", I must say that I find Dissection's lyrics quite silly compared to Watain's on the debut album.

Btw, who cares if Dissection are seen as "legendary"?
Most of the fuzz comes probably from the deeds of Mr.Nödveidt anyway.

If you think that Dissection got (in)famous after the media attention, then you can´t have been around when Somberlain was released and created a whole new path in death/black metal...

And comparing lyrics like that is just idiotic...

If you think that Dissection got (in)famous after the media attention, then you can´t have been around when Somberlain was released and created a whole new path in death/black metal...

Exactly, I also doubt that he was around in the scene back then!



And comparing lyrics like that is just idiotic...

Agreed too.


And if I am to make any comparisons between "Rabid's Death Curse" and "The Somberlain", I must say that I find Dissection's lyrics quite silly compared to Watain's on the debut album.

Since when lyrics that deal with SLAVERY and fucking pathetic FAIRY tales are more interresting than any other kind of lyrics?

Keep BOWING to your fucking MASTER and wait till the new Dissection album gets released... It will crush all the scum like you haha!


Well...just wait some more years. Probably if someone in the band murders you, they will.

Oh yeh... Bunch of sissies hiding behind a stupid corpse paint that don't dare to kill an insect will kill a human being? Funny!
Or drinking some blood is too EVIL to stand?


Btw, who cares if Dissection are seen as "legendary"?

If it wasn't for Dissection (maybe) your WATAIN wouldn't sound this way today! If you don't care then get the fuck out of the scene!


And onstage they have 100 times more charisma than D.

SO? And Micheal Jackson has a damn charisma don't you agree dear? :-*

I think it´s stupid for anyone to deny that Dissection setted new standards in the Black/Death scene, especially regarding the time "The Somberlain" was released.
But i feel Watain to be much closer to my view of what BM is, both musically and visually.

SO? And Micheal Jackson has a damn charisma don't you agree dear?

Hey...we´re not talking about Woods of Infinity here... :shuthefp:

HEY HOLD ON!!!!!!!!
Watain indeed sounds kinda Swedish...but to say that they sound like Dissection...fuck you guys!

Oh yeh... Bunch of sissies hiding behind a stupid corpse paint that don't dare to kill an insect will kill a human being? Funny!

Do I feel something personal against W. here?

Originally posted by Sasrof
If you think that Dissection got (in)famous after the media attention, then you can´t have been around when Somberlain was released and created a whole new path in death/black metal...

And comparing lyrics like that is just idiotic...

I do not doubt or deny Dissection's impact on the scene in any way, but I think that you can not deny that a major part of the attention came from the media. They wouldn't probably have half of their listeners today if it wasn't because of that, that would be better in my opinion.
No bad words about Dissection though.

I know that it was pretty stupid to compare them, but I think that they are trying to play in the same concept. If they are very influenced by Dissection or not is not the point. Watain have already surpassed them.

[i]Watain have already surpassed them. [/B]

EXACTLY

whatever...

Its sad that most people always need to interpret what a band does,shows,wears,thinks,smells,eats,drinks.


Its almost just as sad that most people always needs to compare bands to each other and measure dicks by saying wich band is better than the other band.

Embrace the music ! embrace the lyrics ! embrace the concept !
and if in any doubt , contact the band and see if they care to explain.

The rest is useless...

Comparisons...comparisons...Starknezz is right. I wouldn't compare these bands 'cause I don't feel the reason for that, I can say that I like one band and dislike the other one...And, on the other hand, there's no sense to compare "Casus..." to "The Somberlain", a decade passed, scene looks different, standards are different....Will "Casus..." became a milestone for BM like Dissection's debut was? Time shall tell. But honestly I think it's impossible, All of them have been already recorded.

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SOUMI FINLAND PERKELE
*A minitour in Finland will be done at the end of May together with Swedens Death Metal dogs KAAMOS. With the darkest of death and the blackest of magic, the finnish soil shall be cursed in eternity... Be there!
Check the tourpage at www.theblackdeath.tk (http://www.theblackdeath.tk)

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Hm, as far as I know upcoming KAAMOS album is going to be titled "Lucifer Rising". Perfect "neighbourhood" with "Casus Luciferi" for sure...

Technically, it's the opposite but I'm just splitting hairs here, so never mind me.

Does anybody know when it's coming out?

Kaamos' "Luciferi Rising" will be out through Candlelight this fall. I heard the advance and i'll just say it's definitely worth checking out for anyone into old, dark death metal...

Watain tourshirts will be printed exclusively for this tour, if any copies will be left afterwards they'll be sold for 15 euro through mail.

www.templeofwatain.com updated the 3d of May.

For those that may not get it...Watain live review in Issue #119 of Terrorizer...

Watain + Adorior + Perditor
London Verge

Excellent photo of Erik in paint and blood...

Ah, the good old undergound black metal days...Bit of a rarity of late. Three cryptically logoed bands, a malevolent haze of necrotic attitude; you couldn't ask for more. Opener Perditor must be one of the foulest grim BM bands to plague the scene lately. True to the spirit of early Immortal and Gorgoroth, the hammering they inflict upon the crowd is merciless, clinically executed. you have to give in, such is the googol-tactility of the icewind holocaust emanating from their mentalist machinery. Necromaniacal butchery would be a gross understatement.
Barely visible due to an army of fist-raising black metalheads upfront, Adorior's singer Melissa makes up for her pint size with her wretched, possessed growl. Hell, this woman can swear for England. her between-song banter is mixed with some deranged flowery remarks to "cocksuckers" and "Australian cunts" (eh?) and death threats to whoever spills her beer. Not very diplomatic I'm afraid, but then who gives a shit? It's great to see these seasonal extremists on stage for what seems like aeons. Soon, Adorior's filthy bestial pummelling literally sets the Verge afire, as they rapaciously tear through the growl-along of "Ritualised Combat". "Beyond the Distant Blue" and "Isegrim" are further eardrum-blasting reminders that this band has been dormant for far too long. Let's hope we see them more on these shores from now on rather than playing to one man and his dog in Belgium.
A few technical problems beforehand mean that Watain's set is slightly held up, but all essential ingredients of funereal "grimnity" are present as a monastic Gregorian dirge precludes their set. For all the cultism (or should I say kultism?) that has enshrouded this band, nothing, I repeat, nothing prepares you for the bestial onslaught live in the red-raw flesh. The inverted crosses, the corpsepaint are mere dismissive artefacts as Watain scythe through such nail bombs as "Rabid Death's Curse," "Devil's Blood" and "My Fists Are Him" with sadistic aplomb, a grating bassline that would deafen even Lemmy and frontman Erik Danielsson's ghastly reverberating vokills evoking the pitch-blackest of the sinister. The spirit of VON lives on.
To reprise a lyric from one of the greates metal bands of all time, the root of all evil is the heart of a black soul. Watain are of that very fabric, a black hearted lesson in fearsome, word-and-thought-defying banality of evil. You'd kill for them...

Richie Ruchpaul

Great to hear that RDC is released (again), that cover of "When heavens end" seemed to be really good, based on the small sequence I did hear from it...

I know that there have been lots of discussions etc about Watain and especially their last album, but I still have the urge to say whats on my mind.

Watain Casus Luciferi is a really great album and they have a more than worthy live setting. BUT that album has its ups and downs and is not as brilliant, unique and mind-blowing as anything Dissection has released. Jon is a true musical genius and I dont think people should compare Watain with the legendary Dissection.

It seems that NoEvDia bands are working on their re-releases these days; Deathspell Omega, Katharsis and Watain finally...

Any news about Funeral Mist?

I talked to Tena of Shadow Records recently because as soon as I show my face in basically every town in europe, I get attacked by 10 guys asking me for a re-release of the Devilry album. Anyway, Tena said that there is indeed something planned, but it wasn't going to happen very soon. He and Arioch hadn't talked about it for a long time either, so don't expect to see anything within a year or two. However, I might look into the possibility of licensing it from Tena or something and releasing it myself...

And don't ask me about the demos, I'm so tired of that.... People! They were DEMOS!! There is no intention whatsoever to release them in any form. Stop emailing me about it.

I've listened one of the demos of Funeral Mist and I was shocked because it was a boring music with keyboards (of course from my vision), I hope that demo was a fake one... If it's not, then no need to re-release these :)

Hope to see Watain and Funeral Mist on the distros again...

Originally posted by chaotic
I've listened one of the demos of Funeral Mist and I was shocked because it was a boring music with keyboards

Yeah, write that.

The first demo is more like Emperor. The second demo is more like Devilry. Actually, three songs from the second has been re-recorded and are featured on Devilry and Salvation. (Nightside Phantom, Hellspell and Realm of Plagues, although called "Realm of Shades" on the demo)